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Curiosity about a part of Pride and prejudice-①
"What an excellent father you have, girls" said she, when the door was shut. "I do not know how *you will ever make him amends for his kindness*; or me either, for that matter. At our time of life, it is not so pleasant I can tell you, to be making new acquaintance every day; but for your sake, we would do anything."
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I doubt if the structure of "you will ever make him amends for his kindness" is correct. As far as I know, make amends for means to compensate for something and all the structures I've seen was only subject+make amends for+object.
So, you make *him* amends for his kindness...? Shouldn't it be just "you will ever make amends for his kindness" if it means "you will ever pay back / compensate for his kindness"? How come there's a 'him' there?
Curiosity about a part of Pride and prejudice-①
"What an excellent father you have, girls" said she, when the door was shut. "I do not know how *you will ever make him amends for his kindness*; or me either, for that matter. At our time of life, it is not so pleasant I can tell you, to be making new acquaintance every day; but for your sake, we would do anything."
Question:
I doubt if the structure of "you will ever make him amends for his kindness" is correct. As far as I know, make amends for means to compensate for something and all the structures I've seen was only subject+make amends for+object.
So, you make *him* amends for his kindness...? Shouldn't it be just "you will ever make amends for his kindness" if it means "you will ever pay back / compensate for his kindness"? How come there's a 'him' there?
"What an excellent father you have, girls" said she, when the door was shut. "I do not know how *you will ever make him amends for his kindness*; or me either, for that matter. At our time of life, it is not so pleasant I can tell you, to be making new acquaintance every day; but for your sake, we would do anything."
Question:
I doubt if the structure of "you will ever make him amends for his kindness" is correct. As far as I know, make amends for means to compensate for something and all the structures I've seen was only subject+make amends for+object.
So, you make *him* amends for his kindness...? Shouldn't it be just "you will ever make amends for his kindness" if it means "you will ever pay back / compensate for his kindness"? How come there's a 'him' there?
Thanks A LOT for your help :)
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Now that you mention it, it does sound a little old fashioned to me, but it isn’t strange enough that I even noticed it when I read it. We do say that we make amends TO someone. I suspect she was using it as an indirect personal object - she could have said instead, “make amends TO HIM for his kindness.” In English sometimes we move an indirect personal object in front of a direct non-personal object, and when we do, we drop the proposition of the indirect object. Another example: “I’ll make him a sandwich.”
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Please remember that what you are reading is NOT modern English. On top of that the author may have chosen to use some artistic phrasing.
When we read even older literary works like Shakespeare it is not uncommon for the book to have translations included in it for us to fully understand.
You got the meaning, though.
"I don't know how you'll ever repay him for his kindness."
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Now that you mention it, it does sound a little old fashioned to me, but it isn’t strange enough that I even noticed it when I read it. We do say that we make amends TO someone. I suspect she was using it as an indirect personal object - she could have said instead, “make amends TO HIM for his kindness.” In English sometimes we move an indirect personal object in front of a direct non-personal object, and when we do, we drop the proposition of the indirect object. Another example: “I’ll make him a sandwich.”
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@frankofile Thanks for your response. So in a modern way, it would be "make amends to him for his kindness". Is that right?
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@JennieHeo I actually don’t think it’s SO archaic that it’s weird. As I said I didn’t even notice it. If you used that construction now you would be perfectly well understood.
And technically, Jane Austen is absolutely modern English (and so is Shakespeare, though obviously older). If it weren’t, you’d be having a MUCH harder time reading it. 😊 It isn’t Chaucer. Anything written since about the mid-16th century is modern English.
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It's true, it's modern enough that I have no trouble with understanding but it's also old enough that no one speaks that way!
It just comes off as... poetic.
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@JennieHeo my pleasure. It’s a wonderful novel, one of the all time greats.
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